‘A downward spiral toward extremism’: How Project 2025 policies are already transforming states



NYU Law Professor Melissa Murray and David Pepper, author of Laboratories of Autocracy’ and former Ohio Democratic Party Chair, join Ali Velshi to discuss the most concerning aspects of Project 2025, from the weaponization for the DOJ, the role the Supreme Court could play, and how many of these plans and policies are already playing out in state legislatures around the country. “It’s terrible. It’s turning these states upside down,” Pepper says. “It’s a downward spiral toward extremism.

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